I still used a little softener in the wash - maybe like 1/3 to 1/2 capful and then the rest of the cap with water, but it was mostly because I really started to dig the blended scent of the Bounce bar and the liquid softener.
Definitely a great scent (outdoor fresh), and lasted the full 2 months, just about. (Heavy laundry with spring cleaning and a potty training, occasional pants-pee-er). The bar wears down and you'll see when you need to replace it.
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